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The Future of Business is Socially Responsible: Are You Ready?

In a world that’s grappling with climate change, economic inequality, and social unrest, businesses are no longer just profit-making entities. They’re becoming agents of change. But navigating the muddy waters of social responsibility and human rights in complex global supply chains is no small feat. That’s why I had the pleasure of speaking to Gitte Winther Bruhn, Global Head of Social Responsibility Solutions at SAP, on the Climate Confident podcast.

Gitte pointed out something critical: “It’s not just about having our technology, but we would need knowledgeable people. We would need businesses operating in the space because…we would need expert knowledge here as well.” This reminds us that technology alone cannot solve these issues; it takes a community of informed businesses to drive systemic change.

Partner Up and Solve Together

Gitte highlighted SAP’s strategic approach to tackling these challenges through its Advisory Council for Social Responsibility. Comprising companies with complex value chains, this council aims to “work on this in a very systemic way in partnerships.” Collaborative efforts like these give us hope that together, we can solve business-critical challenges concerning social responsibility and human rights.

Real-Life Success Stories

What makes Gitte’s insights so compelling is the flesh-and-blood examples she provided. Take WEConnect International, for instance, which has built a platform to connect some of the world’s largest buyers with women-owned small businesses. Another example is Ternium, a leading flat steel producer in Latin America that prioritizes workplace safety. These examples underline the point that social responsibility isn’t just a buzzword—it’s good business practice.

Why This Matters

Here’s the kicker: Ignoring social responsibility isn’t just a moral failing; it’s a business risk. With new regulations coming into play, Gitte stated, “Look at it and at least implement the United Guidelines Principle for business and human rights as a first step. Having this, it’s also giving business resilience in the supply chain.”

In the volatile world we live in, resilience is more than a bonus; it’s a necessity. Moreover, Gitte noted that your “license to operate” is at risk. If you don’t act responsibly, your brand can suffer, and your business could be in jeopardy.

Time to Act!

The crux of the matter is simple: “Doing nothing will just be worse,” said Gitte. Don’t wait for regulations to force your hand. Be proactive and see this as an opportunity for competitive advantage, resilience, and brand protection.

To dive deeper into this subject and arm yourself with actionable insights, make sure to listen to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast with Gitte Winther Bruhn. You don’t want to miss it.

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Your feedback and ideas are always appreciated, so feel free to drop a comment below. And remember, every small step towards sustainability counts!

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Closing the Loop: Unveiling the Potential of a Circular Economy with SAP’s Stephen Jamieson

In the continuous quest to spread the word about sustainability and inspire climate confidence, in today’s episode of the Climate Confident podcast I spoke with Stephen Jamieson, the Global Head of Circular Economy Solutions at SAP. We delved into the intriguing world of the circular economy, a concept that’s becoming increasingly crucial in our fight against climate change.

Stephen painted a vivid picture of our current global economy – one that is shockingly only 7.3% circular. To grasp the gravity of this, imagine that a staggering 93 gigatons of materials are extracted each year, most of which are mishandled, resulting in detrimental environmental impacts. From contributing to 90% of the world’s biodiversity loss to 45% of global greenhouse gas emissions, the way we manage materials today is cause for serious concern.

What stood out during our chat was the enormity of the problem, but also the potential solutions at our fingertips. It’s not just about waste reduction; it’s a broader climate change story. One significant revelation was that we’re ingesting a credit card size amount of plastic each week, which is an alarming testament to our current practices.

Stephen brought into focus the substantial role of businesses in promoting circularity, saying, “80% of sustainability impact is baked in at design time.” In essence, companies need to integrate sustainability from the design stage itself, and technologies can aid in streamlining this process. He shared an encouraging story about Henkel, a consumer goods company that swiftly adapted to Spain’s plastic packaging tax requirements, highlighting the power of digital transformation in the circular economy.

A significant part of our conversation centered around Extended Producer Responsibility regulations and the impact they have on shifting the cost of downstream waste management. Jamieson mentioned that the cost, which is currently shouldered by local authorities, would soon be handled by the production system, marking a considerable shift in incentive.

There’s a strong sense of urgency in our chat, but also a ray of hope. The circular economy holds the key to unlocking a sustainable future, and it’s evident that we are on the right track, but the journey has just begun.

Want to hear more about Stephen’s insights and why people often liken his voice to that a certain famous actor? Tune into this episode of the Climate Confident podcast and join the conversation. Let’s drive the change together!

You can listen to the full episode here. Your feedback and ideas are always appreciated, so feel free to drop a comment below. And remember, every small step towards sustainability counts!

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Unlocking the Power of Accurate ESG Data Measurement and Reporting: SAP’s Green Ledger
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In the latest episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I had an incredible conversation with Bhushan Nigale, the Lead for SAP’s Sustainability Development Program. We delved deep into the significance of accurate Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) data measurement and reporting, and how SAP’s Green Ledger plays a pivotal role in this process.

Ever wondered why accurate ESG data measurement is so crucial? Well, imagine trying to navigate a stormy sea without a reliable compass. In much the same way, corporations without precise ESG metrics can quickly lose their way in the turbulence of today’s rapidly evolving business environment. Precise ESG data provides valuable insights that help organizations in making informed decisions, effectively managing risks, and identifying new opportunities for sustainable growth.

Bhushan, in our enlightening discussion, brilliantly highlighted how SAP’s Green Ledger is transforming the way companies handle ESG data. It is not just a tool; it’s an intelligent solution that provides an unprecedented level of transparency and trustworthiness to ESG data. By harnessing advanced technologies like AI, the Green Ledger ensures the veracity of ESG data, helping companies prove their genuine commitment to sustainability.

Another important aspect we touched on in the episode was the necessity of reliable ESG reporting. While ESG data measurement is a crucial step towards a more sustainable future, it’s the accurate and consistent reporting of this data that allows for global accountability. In the absence of proper reporting, even the most robust ESG strategies can lose their impact. SAP’s Green Ledger excels in this area too, assisting businesses in meeting the highest ESG reporting standards while driving them towards their sustainability goals.

SAP’s Green Ledger demonstrates an inspiring commitment to responsible business practices, providing a blueprint for others to follow. As we collectively strive towards a more sustainable future, platforms like this will continue to play an instrumental role. They aren’t merely tracking ESG metrics; they are powering our journey towards a greener, more resilient world.

I know I’ve just scratched the surface here. There’s so much more to learn about SAP’s Green Ledger and the broader importance of accurate ESG data measurement and reporting. So, why not delve a little deeper?

Listen to the episode here and join us as we navigate these critical conversations on the path to climate confidence. Remember, every step we take, no matter how small, brings us closer to a sustainable future. So let’s embark on this enlightening journey together.

Finally, if you value receiving weekly actionable insights on sustainability and climate, you can always sign up to be a Supporter of the podcast for less than the cost of a cup of coffee.

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The Viability of a 100% Renewable Energy Grid: Insights from Anja Frada of Wärtsilä Energy
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When we think about the future of energy, the concept of a 100% renewable energy grid often comes up. But is this vision feasible? To shed light on this subject, I turned to Anja Frada, the COO of Wärtsilä Energy, on the latest episode of the Climate Confident podcast.

Anja and her team at Wärtsilä Energy are at the forefront of this renewable revolution, and her insights provide a deeper understanding of the challenges and opportunities that lie in the path towards a sustainable energy future.

Renewable Energy: An Economic Imperative

Anja emphasized the economic viability of renewable energy. According to her, “When we look at where we are today, we can clearly see the economic incentive to invest in renewables, and then flexibility as a result.” A promising statement from someone with her finger on the pulse of the industry.

She also discussed the importance of flexibility in the energy system, an essential component that goes hand in hand with renewable energy. This flexibility comes from a combination of renewable energy sources, energy storage, and other flexible technologies, providing a grid that can adapt to the variability of renewable power.

EU Energy Market Reforms

The conversation also delved into the impact of recent EU energy market reforms, which are transforming the way the electricity market operates. For Anja, a holistic view of the energy system is crucial in this era of transformation.

“I think it’s very important that we look holistically at the energy system to understand how should we build it out and what type of investments should we do? And then build also a market that ensures those investments will happen,” she explained.

Building an Incentive Structure

A pivotal aspect of our transition towards a renewable future lies in creating the right incentive structure. This drives investment into renewable energy and the necessary flexibility solutions. “We need to ensure that there is the right incentives to do those investments,” Anja emphasized.

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Anja’s insights underscore the reality that a 100% renewable energy grid is not only possible but also economically viable. It will require innovation, investment, and a thoughtful approach to market incentives, but the path forward is clear.

To hear more about Anja’s perspective on the future of renewable energy, tune in to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast, or watch it on YouTube. From the economic incentives driving renewable energy investment to the role of EU energy market reforms, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of our energy landscape.

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Stay climate confident, and let’s make a change together!

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Unleashing Startups: Our Secret Weapon Against Climate Change

Climate change is arguably the most pressing issue of our time. It calls for immediate, transformative action that transcends borders, industries, and disciplines. Within this vast and urgent landscape, there is a crucial role for entrepreneurship. Startups and innovative entrepreneurs can bring fresh perspectives and agile approaches that contribute significantly to climate change solutions. In this week’s episode of the Climate Confident podcast, we delve into this very intersection of entrepreneurship and climate change.

My guests, Micol Chiesa and Chris de Koning, are at the forefront of this movement. As two of the Directors behind Planet Positive Lab, they are nurturing the next generation of climate-positive entrepreneurs, enabling them to transform their innovative ideas into ventures that can create systemic change.

Planet Positive Lab’s vision is both ambitious and inspiring. They believe in the power of entrepreneurs to create solutions that not only help mitigate climate change but also build a more sustainable and equitable future. Their mission extends beyond business profits, aiming to make a positive impact on the planet and its people.

Their summer accelerator program is a testament to this mission. The program provides entrepreneurs across the globe with the resources and support they need to turn their climate-positive ideas into reality. From mentoring and guidance to investor connections, the Lab is committed to fostering a supportive ecosystem for these change-makers.

What stands out about their approach is their focus on quality over quantity. Rather than betting on big numbers, they are dedicated to meticulously selecting and closely nurturing a smaller cohort of high-potential ventures. This approach, they believe, enables more targeted support and, ultimately, more meaningful impact.

This episode is a goldmine of insights for anyone interested in the role of entrepreneurship in combating climate change. Micol and Chris bring a unique blend of passion, knowledge, and experience to the table, making it an enlightening and inspiring listen.

At the heart of the conversation is an important reminder: Climate change is everyone’s fight. We all have a role to play, whether we’re entrepreneurs, investors, educators, or consumers. Initiatives like Planet Positive Lab demonstrate the power of collective action and the potential of entrepreneurship as a driving force in this battle.

Are you ready to dive deeper into the world of climate-positive entrepreneurship? Don’t wait! Listen to the full episode here (or search for Climate Confident wherever you get your podcasts) and join the conversation. Let’s all be a part of this crucial journey towards a climate-confident future.

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Decarbonising Energy and Driving Resilience with Gareth Evans, CEO of Veckta

Have you ever wondered how businesses and communities can become more resilient while decarbonising their energy systems? Look no further! In the latest episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Gareth Evans, CEO of Veckta, an innovative company that focuses on helping organizations design, build, and operate clean, secure, and resilient energy systems.

During our conversation, Gareth shared some fascinating insights on the current state of energy transition and decarbonisation efforts. As we discussed the various challenges and opportunities presented by the global shift towards renewable energy, it became apparent that organizations like Veckta play a critical role in accelerating the transition to cleaner, more sustainable energy systems.

One of the key points Gareth highlighted is the importance of microgrids in enhancing energy resilience. These localized energy systems can help businesses and communities maintain a stable and secure energy supply, even in the face of power outages or other disruptions. By investing in their own energy systems, organizations can not only protect themselves from outages but also save money by avoiding the costs and losses associated with such disruptions.

Gareth also explained how Veckta is revolutionizing the way organizations approach their energy systems. Through its cutting-edge platform, Veckta provides comprehensive solutions for designing, sourcing, and operating microgrids, ensuring that businesses can benefit from reliable, clean energy. By harnessing the power of renewable energy sources and advanced technologies, Veckta is helping its clients to significantly reduce their carbon footprint, while also increasing their energy resilience.

But the conversation didn’t stop there! We delved into the broader implications of the energy transition and its impact on businesses, communities, and the planet. Gareth emphasized the importance of embracing this transition as an opportunity to build customer loyalty, employee loyalty, and to do right by our communities. He also shared his thoughts on the vital role that collaboration plays in overcoming the challenges of decarbonisation and driving the energy transition forward.

To learn more about Veckta’s pioneering work in the field of energy transition and decarbonisation, and to hear Gareth’s fascinating insights on the future of energy, be sure to listen to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast. You won’t want to miss this engaging and informative discussion that will leave you inspired to take action in the fight against climate change.

Don’t miss out on this enlightening conversation with Gareth Evans. To listen to the full episode, follow this link or search “Climate Confident” wherever you get your podcasts. Let’s come together and drive the energy transition towards a cleaner, more resilient future for all!

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Asia’s Untold Renewable Energy Success Story: A Candid Conversation

Asia’s energy transition is a significant and often overlooked aspect of the global fight against climate change. In the latest episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Assaad Razzouk, CEO of renewable energy company Gurin Energy, host of The Angry Clean Energy Guy podcast, and author of the book Saving the Planet Without the Bullshit. Our conversation explored the ongoing transformation of the energy landscape in Asia and the positive impact it’s having on the environment.

Asia has long been seen as a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, with much of its power coming from coal-fired power plants. However, the tide is turning, and the region is witnessing a massive shift towards clean, renewable energy. Assaad Razzouk shared his extensive knowledge on this topic and provided valuable insights on Asia’s commitment to building a more sustainable future.

One of the episode’s highlights was our discussion about China’s impressive progress in the renewable energy sector. The country has become a global leader in solar power, with over 250 gigawatts of installed solar capacity. This is particularly evident in the rapid expansion of rooftop solar across China, which has benefited from strong government support and policies. China’s solar revolution is not only reducing its reliance on fossil fuels but also paving the way for other countries in the region to follow suit.

Another key takeaway from the episode was the importance of energy access in Asia’s developing countries. Assaad explained that access to electricity is crucial for lifting people out of poverty and improving their quality of life. Decentralized renewable energy solutions, such as rooftop solar and microgrids, are making it possible for remote communities to access clean, reliable power. This not only benefits the environment but also helps to address social and economic inequalities.

We also touched on the issue of plastics in Asia, a complex and multifaceted problem. Thankfully, many Asian countries have taken strong measures to address this issue, banning or significantly reducing the use of single-use plastics. Assaad pointed out that countries like Indonesia have started implementing legislation to hold manufacturers accountable for their plastic waste, a step that is yet to be taken in other parts of the world, including the United States.

The conversation with Assaad Razzouk was both enlightening and inspiring, revealing the incredible progress Asia has made in its energy transition. This transformation is not only helping to combat climate change but also creating opportunities for economic growth, social development, and a brighter future for millions of people.

I encourage you to listen to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast to hear our in-depth discussion with Assaad Razzouk and learn more about Asia’s inspiring energy transition. You can find the episode on your favorite podcast platform or visit the Climate Confident podcast website. Don’t forget to subscribe and share the episode with your friends and colleagues to spread the word about the positive impact of renewable energy in Asia.

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Sweet Proteins: A Tasty Solution to Climate Change and Health Crises

In the latest episode of my Climate Confident podcast, I had an enthralling conversation with Ali Wing, CEO of Oobli, who introduced us to the fascinating world of sweet proteins. These zero-calorie proteins not only offer a healthier alternative to traditional sugars but also hold the potential to address the growing concerns around climate change and the global health crisis caused by obesity and diabetes.

A Sweet Revolution

Oobli’s innovation lies in harnessing the power of precision fermentation to produce sweet proteins. This process is not only sustainable but also significantly reduces greenhouse gas emissions and resource usage compared to conventional sugar production methods. Ali explained that sweet proteins have been part of nature for millions of years, and Oobli aims to make them accessible to the masses, offering a sweet solution for people with dietary restrictions, such as diabetics.

Global Impact

One of the most striking takeaways from our conversation is the potential for sweet proteins to revolutionize the food industry and contribute to a more sustainable future. As Ali mentions, “The biggest challenge that our cousins in meat and dairy have, and I’m a huge advocate of all of them, particularly from a climate point of view, is you still don’t have consumers adopting at a fast enough rate. Whereas in sugar and sugar alternatives, you have consumers looking every which way.”

This indicates a unique opportunity for sweet proteins to gain rapid adoption among consumers, leading to a massive shift in the way we consume and produce sweeteners, ultimately benefiting the environment.

Sweet Applications

Oobli is just beginning to explore the potential applications of sweet proteins. Currently, they’re focusing on chocolates and fruity sweet teas. However, Ali believes that sweet proteins have a particularly significant role to play in the beverage industry. She notes that 40% of our daily added sugar comes from liquids, which has been the primary change in our diets over the last 20 to 40 years.

“Taking [sugar] out and just filling the rest with water is a very quick fit. But it’s also a good reminder for everybody when they think about where they are with their overall health equation is really paying attention to the sugar load in drinks.”

Call to Action

I encourage you to listen to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast to hear more about Oobli’s journey, the incredible potential of sweet proteins, and how they can play a pivotal role in addressing climate change and global health crises.

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Sweet proteins are an exciting innovation that can help us combat climate change while improving our health. It’s time to embrace this sweet revolution and create a more sustainable, healthier future for all.

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Bridging the Gap: Richard Delevan on Climate Tech, IPCC Reports, and Empowering Change

Climate change is a complex and often overwhelming issue. That’s why it’s crucial to have experts who can not only help us understand the latest scientific reports but also guide us in finding innovative solutions. In a recent episode of my Climate Confident podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Richard Delevan (@rdelevan), a communications consultant who works with energy and climate tech companies. We discussed the latest IPCC synthesis report, the importance of climate tech solutions, and the power of effective communication in driving change.

Richard shared his insights on the IPCC report, emphasizing that while it paints a dire picture, there is still hope. He highlighted the significance of climate tech in mitigating the impacts of climate change, stating that “technology and innovation are essential, especially in the energy sector.” Richard also noted that while the IPCC report is grounded in science, it is still subject to a political process, and this can sometimes dilute the urgency of its message.

We also discussed the role of effective communication in the climate change conversation. Richard emphasized the importance of crafting a compelling narrative that moves beyond simply identifying villains and victims. Instead, he argued for a more inclusive approach that helps people understand their role in addressing climate change and encourages collective action.

One of the most inspiring aspects of our conversation was Richard’s perspective on the impact of young activists like Greta Thunberg. He believes that political leaders can learn valuable lessons from her ability to ask difficult questions and cut through the noise. The key, Richard explained, is to focus on creating a vision of a desirable future where everyone has a stake and can participate.

When asked what people should be paying more attention to, I pointed out the scarcity of climate news in mainstream media, especially when it comes to positive stories. That’s one of the reasons I started the Climate Confident podcast – to highlight the good news and inspire people to take action. As I mentioned in the episode, “hearing these good news stories every week, it stops me collapsing into a ball, sobbing on the floor, throwing my hands up in despair.”

I encourage you to listen to the full episode with Richard Delevan for a deeper understanding of the latest IPCC synthesis report, the power of climate tech, and the importance of effective communication in driving climate action. Let’s face the future with a bit of humor, humility, and the knowledge that together, we can make a difference.

Click here to listen to the full episode and subscribe to the Climate Confident podcast. Don’t forget to check out Richard’s LinkedIn profile and sign up for his Week in Climate Tech newsletter for more insights.

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Title: Debunking the Hydrogen Hype: Michael Barnard on the Future of Energy

In the latest episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I dive deep into the world of hydrogen and its role in our sustainable future. My guest, Michael Barnard (@mbarnardca on Twitter), Chief Strategist of The Future Is Electric (@tfie1 on Twitter), shares his expert insights on the viability of hydrogen as an energy source and its potential to transform industries.

As we face the challenge of mitigating climate change and transitioning to a low-carbon economy, hydrogen has been hailed as a miraculous energy solution. However, Michael Barnard debunks some of the most common myths surrounding hydrogen’s potential, offering a reality check on its limitations and the role it may truly play in our future.

One key takeaway from the conversation is Michael’s assertion that “hydrogen is a terrible battery.” He explains that hydrogen has low energy density and high conversion losses, making it a less efficient energy storage solution than widely believed. Michael also emphasizes that hydrogen’s role in aviation and marine transport is overhyped, with its chances in these sectors being slim.

Michael goes on to discuss the factors driving the hydrogen hype, particularly the influence of the fossil fuel industry. He suggests that governments and industries are promoting hydrogen to keep fossil fuel infrastructure relevant, even as the world moves towards a more sustainable energy mix. As Michael puts it, “There’s a moral case for fossil fuels, but it’s now over.”

Furthermore, Michael delves into the challenges faced by the fossil fuel industry and the role hydrogen may play in their future. He highlights the complexities and potential impacts of hydrogen production from fossil fuels, particularly in countries like Canada and Norway.

One of the most thought-provoking moments in the conversation is Michael’s exploration of hydrogen’s potential in decarbonizing industrial heat production. While some proponents of hydrogen argue that it could play a significant role in this sector, Michael remains cautious, emphasizing the need for more research and innovation to fully understand its capabilities.

Throughout the episode, Michael maintains a bold vision for a sustainable future, stating, “We don’t want the fossil fuel industry around anymore.” He believes that electrification and renewable energy sources will replace fossil fuels over time, and that hydrogen will only play a limited role in the broader energy transition.

In conclusion, this eye-opening conversation with Michael Barnard sheds light on the reality of hydrogen’s role in our sustainable future. It provides listeners with a much-needed reality check, urging them to look beyond the hype and focus on the facts. To learn more about Michael’s work and gain a deeper understanding of hydrogen’s potential and limitations, listen to the full episode of the Climate Confident podcast here.

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